This is from Tamiya's website, but can be taken with a pinch of salt as most people will use more thinners; Proper ratio for paint thickness differs according to weather conditions. I really don't like the textured finish that thick paints can make but that's just me. i am running an Aztek and 20 psi. The two aren't suited, enamels are oil based, acrylics are not. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Would you recommend it. Paint retarder might also be useful (already included in the Mr.Color Leveling thinner). I need to know what the ratio of paint to thinner is when airbrushing as I have asked many different companies, shops etc and they all say different ratios and percentages. So lets say that I use 30 drops of paint, I will add 15 drops of thinner, plus another 3 drops of thinner. If I am doing detail work, I go with a 1 to 1 ratio and about 12 psi. a basecoat of paint after preshading panel lines, I will thin 50:50 in order to give the paint a more translucent effect allowing me to build the layers of paint up a little at a time (shot at around 15-18psi). Seems like that was just a typo. "How To Thin Acrylic Paint For Airbrush" is the question that all modelers are curious about. It should look about the consistency of milk. On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2. (painting plastic ship model if thats somehow relevant). I thought I would give this combination a try as you will find Tamiya thinner in most model shops and in much larger containers than Xtracrylix thinner. For camouflage painting I reduce the pressure to about 8 to 10 psi, increase the thinning to approximately 1:1, and spray about ½" from the model's surface. First off to the forum! The first thing you notice about this paint is that is goes on very much like the enamels I was used to, without the smell! I thinned the Tamiya NATO green paint in a 1:1 paint / thinner ratio, set the air pressure to about 20 psi, closed my eyes and pressed the button! Testors Acrylic paints hand paint fairly well but have poor adhesion (there is a big thread going on now on Hyperscale about their overall poor quality). Tamiya acrylics are alcohol based. Typically I’d thin Tamiya acrylics with the purpose made Tamiya acrylic thinner X20-A to a ratio of around one part paint to one part thinner (1:1), and airbrush the paint at around 18 psi. What I found to work is to not brush them, but put down a drop (with your brush) and spread it around. Proper ratio for paint thickness differs according to weather conditions. I'm getting the Steenbeck AB-AS-186 Airbrushing Kit With Evolution 2 in 1 Airbrush. The Liqitex flow aid I have says on the bottle to cut it 20-1 with water. Does anyone want to share their recipe for thinner to paint ratio for Tamiya gloss paints? Rough guidelines of thinning ratio is 2:1-3:1 ( Tamiya Acrylic paint : … (base coat) I heard 3 layers are required and it should be less then paint 1 / thinner 1 ratio. I'm looking into airbrushing and purchasing a kit soon. Take a fresh jar of paint, add 0.5 ml of retarder, then add thinner to a glass mold line you can see inside the neck of the jar. just tap the stirring stick inside the cup. I put about 3-4 drops of liquitex "flow-aid" in it, which you can get at Michael's or an art supply store. I know its noob question but does anyone have any good recommendation for thinning tamiya acrylic paint with X20a Thinner to paint-brush plastic models ? It will really depend on what you're trying to accomplish. And they strip easily with subsequent layers of paint. With their lacquer thinner, I start at 1.5:1 thinner to paint and thin to taste. Tamiya acrylics are already very thin, so thinning them further is not a good idea for brushing. Use an old, cheap brush to mix the two. Tamiya has long offered a wide range of acrylic paints and acrylic thinners. For acrylics, I have a little 1oz bottle, with an eye dropper top. I then use an eye dropper to put in enough rubbing alcohol (when I use Tamiya acrylics) to put a layer over the top of the paint. Your best bet would be to start at 50/50 & see how you get on; Paint too dry or trouble getting good atomization - increase the % of thinners. 75-T81040 - TAMIYA X-20A THINNER (250ML) Tamiya X-20A acrylic thinner is the perfect choice to thin Tamiya acrylic paint when spraying throug.. Finish too wet or thin - decrease the % of thinners. I just ordered some Tamiya acrylics for my next model along with tamiya thinner. I've heard 50/50. 1/700 are small enough that you can get away with it, but Tamiya acrylics are notoriously hard to brush. Tamiya airbrushes very well using both alcohol and Mr Color Levelling thinner but it's lacquer based, generally I stick with isopropyl alcohol. Tamiya acrylics are not really suited for brushing. I'm also buying some books which are affiliated with this site on www.amazon.co.uk to try and guide me on my way. What ratio do you usually use. Vallejo). They are closer to fast drying lacquers than other acrylics (e.g. This combination performed in much the same way as Test 1. I thin the primer in a 20ml tamiya mixing jar up to the rip so about a 5mm or so gap and bit more detail I use the large tamiya eyedropper to the 4th mark and do this about 4 times full of thinner this idea from Andy hobby headquarters on YouTube on thinning tamiya paints and … It's far cheaper than brand name acrylic thinners. you want to thin to the consistency of milk. I stir it up with a toothpick and then paint at around 18psi. By signing up you may also receive reader surveys and occasional special offers. Here's how I do it. I'm using the Paasche H, single action rig that my wife bought me for Christmas a couple years ago. I use about 20 PSI and it comes out just fine. It slows the drying time and allows the paint to self level before it dries, eliminating brush strokes. For best results Tamiya acrylic paint should be thinned with Tamiya acrylic thinners to a ratio of approximately 1:1, and airbrushed at the lowest possible air pressure setting that gives proper paint atomisation and coverage. I tend to start at 50/50 ratio and often thin further than that. I use a Badger 150 bottom feed airbrush. Do you mean by milk that it is slightly thicker than water and if tilted will loosely stick to its container? But usually 1.5 or 2:1 for standard coverage. Rough guidelines of thinning ratio is2:1-3:1 ( Tamiya Acrylic paint : thinner). I usually thin at a ratio of 2 parts paint to 1 part thinner, plus 10% thinner just to make sure. 1-1 is not a bad start. i got them to stock it at my LHS. When I’m airbrushing decanted Tamiya TS paints I use a ratio of 3:1 or 4:1, paint to thinners mix. Be very careful not to put too much pressure on the brush as it could strip the underlying layers. Swap tips and techniques, show your latest builds/WIPs, post kit reviews and discuss the latest kits! Based on your photos, it seems like you are getting a reduction in splatter on your 60/40 and 70/30 mixes. Then try 7/3 if that not ideal. Thank you for signing up! I would start by not thinning acrylic paints with enamel thinner. Its ok to mix brands. In between steps of one of my projects i decided id make a video to show the alternative i found to using the tamiya paint thinner. In this tutorial we take a look airbrushing Tamiya Acrylic PaintsFor early access to all my videos before general release and shootouts in all my videos. Tamiya is a lacquer based acrylic, so it makes sense to use a lacquer thinner. I usually thin my Tamiya paints with 91% iso alcohol but have good results with Tamiya acrylic and lacquer thinners as well as Mr Leveling Thinner. View entire discussion (4 comments) Test 3 – 50% Tamiya thinner. I fill the paint cup about 2/3 of the way up. The reason there is differing opinion is because there are a few factors that need to be considered when thinning - different airbrushes with different needle/nozzle combinations, environmental factors (heat, humidity) & user "style" all have an effect on what the best thinning ratio for each airbrusher is. On the Bench:   Trumperter Tsesarevich on deck Glencoe USS Oregon. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the modelmakers community. For different effects, i.e. I've kind of developed an eye based on the consistency of the paint on my stirring paddle. If anything you would want it to be slightly thicker. View our, Tools, Techniques, and Reference Materials. $40+ shipping. You don’t want to mess up an expensive brush mixing ( see my brush recommendations here ). Also, for thinning tamiya acrylics you should use X20a (essentially alcohol) or water. hobby boss 1/48 F-105G. Just to let you know I'm getting the Harder and Sttenbeck Evolution Silverline 2 in 1 airbrush instead of just the Evolution 2 in 1. Temperature and humidity will play a role in things. As a rule, I tend to use the paint thinner produced by the same company that produced the paint being used. Tamiya paints are poor for brush painting, but they airbrush beautifully. I will obviously have to practice and see what works best for me. Some things cannot be known- this is one of those. Even after a good cleaning. The thing is, Tamiya acrylics aren't true acrylics. And much more! Continue to add water or thinner a drop at a … I read another forum after googling my question where someone mentioned that Tamiya paint thinner and Iwata paints don't mix because they get clogged in the nozzle of the brush, or the different chemical compounds, or something to that affect. I'm going to be using Tamiya paint and thinner. 1-1 is not a bad start. Typically this is 30-50% Tamiya X/XF paint and then either Acryllic Thinner (or if using the slightly chalky XF paints try Tamiya Laquer Thinner). My main targets are to airbrush my 2 new F1 cars both 1/12 scale and Tamiya: some will require more thinning then others because the consistency from bottle to bottle won't always be the same. Thin them with cheap everyday isopropyl alcohol that can be bought for peanuts. Ratio for airbrushing tamiya paints Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 2, 2007 2:46 PM Alright so Im getting my airbrush workingh again and i will be airbrushing with tamiya paints. This is from Tamiya's website, but can be taken with a pinch of salt as most people will use more thinners; Proper ratio for paint thickness differs according toweather conditions. I use Thayer and Chandler airbrushes, and for general coverage I usually start with a 3:1 ratio (3 parts paint to 1 part thinner), I spray at around 15 psi, and about 3 - 4" from the model's surface. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Read this, it'll be the only thing you need to handbrush Tamiya acrylics, This is pretty popular guide for painting Tamiya acrylics. Thank you for everyones advice I'm going to buy a little Tamiya Morris Mini 1/24 scale as a practice dummy. Iso alcohol works as well, and is what Tamiya bottles for use with their acrylic. Tamiya "yellow cap" lacquer thinner: Works great with X-22 and works, in my experience, pretty much just was well as Mr Color Leveling thinner. Also if anyones got any quick tips on how to clean the tip piece of an iwata neo id appreciate it. I've had really great results using alcohol as an acrylic thinner for paints from Tamiya, Gunze Sangyo (Aqueous/Mr.Hobby), Vallejo, Italeri, and Akan (don't try this with Testors Acryl, it took some time to clean the resulting goo from my airbrush). The H&S Evolution is a brilliant airbrush. It can be used up to a 1:10 ratio with Tamiya Acrylic Paints. There are different ways to achieve paint coverage when using an airbrush. for a bottle of paint how much thinner should I use? Do you add the flow aid straight from the bottle? Don't use enamel thinner with acrylic paints, I can't imagine that will end well. Use "acrylic" thinner (Tamiya acrylics aren't true acrylics so they aren't thinable with water) like Tamiya X-20A or just IPA or lacquer thinner like Tamiya Lacquer thinner or Mr.Color Levelling Thinner (keep in mind that lacquers will be smelly though). i use Tamiya thinner from the 250 ml bottle. This is pretty popular guide for painting Tamiya acrylics. Please do not apply a lacquer overcoat, as it could I'm probably not thinning my paint nearly enough. I always spray with tamiya acrylic paint and thinner using the ratio 2 parts paint for 1 part thinner. At 9:1 you can start doing filters, fading and shading. Is this correct? I put regular rubbing alcohol in it (70% isoprophyl). Recently I experimented with Tamiya's Lacquer Thinner, item # 87077. most will use water thin for detailed work. Your email has been successfully added to the list. Stir well, use a wide brush and try to not drag the brush over existing paint until the paint has fully cured, about 4 hours. For tamiya acrylics, I put the paint in the airbrush paint cup and then simply eyeball how much thinner I need (usually around 30%). These days I eyeball it and mix it in the airbrush cup, largely because I’m impatient and Tamiya paints are amazingly forgiving. You also want to add some Tamiya Retarder. Put a few drops of paint into the cup. For instance, for a general basecoat I thin Tamiya paints (with laquer thinner) at about 30% thinner and 70% paint ratio typically shot through the airbrush at around 20psi. Description Tamiya Paint Retarder will make acrylic paint dry slower, enabling a smoother finish whether you airbrush Tamiya Acrylic paint or brush it onto a model. watch it drip along the side. i use Tamiya paints a lot too, and i have to agree w/ Merlin - i gotta thin 'em! I have found that a 2 parts Tamiya paint to 1 part Tamiya X20A Thinner worked best at about 16-20 psi. You can speed up curing w a blow dryer set to low. anywhere from 3:1 to 1:1 (paint:thinner) depending on the color. I'm using an Iwata Revolution airbrush at 45 psi and hope I can get these paints to airbrush smoothly. I’ve not used AK interactive paints so I’m not familiar with their peculiarities. Spray at a PSI of 13–18 (18 being what MiG Ammo recommends and on the high end)and thin to a ratio of 6/4 (Paint/Thinner) and see how that does. airbrushing and thinning is a personel thing ,,, how far from the model are you spraying ,,, what color ,, how thin ,, what pressure ,,what needle,, how far back are you pulling the trigger ..there are so many variables, you can use the guidelines but in the end you will have to learn what works,,, it's been said a million times but practice,,, will reveal the best answer. You also want to add some Tamiya Retarder. F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town! Mr Color Leveling Thinner is best, it contains a retarder in the Thinner but can be a bit hot to underlying layers of paint. I use various paints depending on the shades I need. also when starting out ,,, using the manufactures thinner is a big help...trying out alternate methods and products in the midst of learning to airbrush is  not the best advice.you will find what works best for you as you progress. The reality is that a thinning ratio of Tamiya lacquers of 3:1 will probably be thicker than milk, but this is ok. We’re starting with a low amount of thinners and working up to test what works for your airbrush setup and airbrushing environment. Can I paint with lacquer spray over a model coated with acrylic or enamel paint? Not sure about X20A, but I assume it's probably similar. Personally, when it comes to choosing whether to thin X-22 with Mr Color Leveling thinner or Tamiya lacquer thinner, I tend to pick whichever bottle is … Our community is FREE to join. AB-AS-186 Airbrushing Kit With Evolution 2 in 1 Airbrush. I deeply apologise as i wrongly stated thinner i am going to use (and did already bought). Rough guidelines of thinning ratio is 2:1-3:1 ( Tamiya Acrylic paint : thinner). Tamiya paints are excellent when it comes to high thinner:paint ratios and being able to spray at a low psi. Would you recommend it? wings and fuselage cut from sprue. We do not sell, rent or trade our email lists. I typically just eyeball the amount of thinners to put into the decanted paint in the airbrush to get it somewhere within these ratios. If you are painting 1/350 ships I would say just get more suitable paints for hand-brushing or a spray can. It slows the drying time and allows the paint to self level before it dries, eliminating brush strokes. Tamiya acrylic and thinner mix ratio. Computer, did we bring batteries?.....Computer? What paint/thinner ratio do you use? (yes, i am one of the 7 people who are not complaining about the Aztek!) Its indeed the "Acrylic X-20A Thinner" not the "Enamel" one. In my experience enamel colors are much better because they dry slower. It helps to lessen the chance of painting a grainy surface on your model. Press J to jump to the feed. Finish too wet or thin - decrease the % of thinners. The subreddit dedicated to the hobby of plastic model kit building and painting. I would definitely recommend having a spare model for "target practice" and try different ratios of paint and thinner shooting them at different psi. For brush painting you actually want a thicker texture and probably should not dilute the paint at all. Take a fresh jar of paint, add 0.5 ml of retarder, then add thinner to a glass mold line you can see inside the neck of the jar. Read this, it'll be the only thing you need to handbrush Tamiya acrylics. I then stir it with a toothpick to blend it all together. What is the proper thinning ratio for airbrushing? 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